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[News] Linux-Solaris Catfight Begins and Hopefully Ends

  • Subject: [News] Linux-Solaris Catfight Begins and Hopefully Ends
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:36:42 +0000
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: Netscape / schestowitz.com
  • User-agent: KNode/0.10.4
Hey Jonathan: The L in LAMP is Literal

,----[ Quote ]
| Really, Jonathan? Sun can certainly substitute Solaris for Linux in the 
| stack, but I’m not sure many customers will. (Customers tend to be pretty 
| literal in their technology decisions.) Why would a “young Internet company” 
| tie their business to a platform with shrinking market share and a tiny 
| non-Sun developer base? We are confident MySQL will continue supporting Linux 
| as its primary platform partner since that is where they make their sales. 
| MySQL CEO Marten Mickos in fact will be speaking on this topic at our 
| upcoming Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit.       
`----

http://www.linux-foundation.org/weblogs/amanda/2008/02/17/hey-jonathan-the-l-in-lamp-is-literal/

Sun on the defence:

Linux Aggro

,----[ Quote ]
| This is getting a little weird. Twice in the last couple of years, Linus 
| Torvalds has gone out of his way to diss Solaris, the OS technology and Sun 
| corporately. Now, anyone who’s spent time on a mailing list with Linus knows 
| that his opinions are sharp-edged and rarely withheld. But now we have a pure 
| attack piece from Amanda McPherson, identified as “the marketing director of 
| the Linux Foundation”.     
| 
| She goes on about how the L in LAMP is Linux and Literal; and how Sun in 
| general and Jonathan in particular are hopeless losers because there are more 
| of them than of us. Oh, and because there’s a nasty little dispute in the 
| OpenSolaris community.   
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http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2008/02/17/Linux-Aggro

Hopefully they could all get along and concentrate on bankrupting Microsoft
first, together. Later they can fight one another. Microsoft reveals in its
memos that it loves stirring up wars (sometimes civil) among its rivals, kind
of like the US which gave away weapons for certain countries to attack one
another.


Here is the stuff they speak of:

Sun Unveils New Strategy Aimed At Web 2.0 Developers

,----[ Quote ]
| CEO Schwartz says that the Solaris, Java, virtualization, MySQL combo is best 
| for development. 
| 
| [...]
| 
| MySQL brings another key set of developers, the users of the integrated open 
| source LAMP stack, he said. LAMP stands for Linux, Apache, MySQL, and PHP or 
| Perl. The "L" doesn't have to be taken literally, he added. Sun can and will 
| substitute Solaris for Linux in the stack.   
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http://www.informationweek.com/software/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=206504258&subSection=Enterprise+Applications

Sun Confirms Inflexability & Community Disregard

,----[ Quote ]
| On Monday OGB Chairman Rich Teer posted Sun's answer (crafted by Mr Bill 
| Franklin with the assistance of Mr. Simon Phipps) to the OGB's request for 
| clarification regarding the highly controversial decision to name Project 
| Indiana "OpenSolaris". The issue is highly mixed, on one hand you have Sun 
| Microsystems looking for a way to monetize OpenSolaris, on the other hand 
| they are redefining the term "OpenSolaris", around which everything is based, 
| without a single regard for the community.      
`----

http://cuddletech.com/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=898


Sun bullied, used threats to gain control of open source project, former owner
says

,----[ Quote ]
| Sun used strong-arm tactics and made threats to the owners of an open-source 
| directory project to wrestle away control, according to one of the former 
| owners and creators of the project.  
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http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2007/112907-sun-opends.html?fsrc=rss-linux-news


Not with a bang, but a whimper

,----[ Quote ]
| Roy Fielding[1] finally quit the OpenSolaris community today, see his 
| resignation letter[2]. The kettle finally boiled over and the realization 
| come to many (but not all) that Sun is publishing their Solaris code for 
| marketing purposes, rather than creating an independent, community-led, open 
| source project with the ability to make real decisions.     
`----

http://www.ratliff.net/blog/index.php/2008/02/14/not-with-a-bang-but-a-whimper/

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