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[News] [Rival] Microsoft Slammed for OOXML Secrecy, Unleashing Shills (Zuck, ACT)

  • Subject: [News] [Rival] Microsoft Slammed for OOXML Secrecy, Unleashing Shills (Zuck, ACT)
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:09:11 +0000
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: Netscape / schestowitz.com
  • User-agent: KNode/0.10.4
How OOXML vote could change all -- and nothing

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| Whether the International Organization for Standardization (ISO) should adopt 
| OOXML is a question that has fuelled a blog battle between supporters and 
| opponents, ahead of this week's meeting in Geneva to finalize the text that 
| will be put to the vote.   
| 
| But will the final decision even matter?
| 
| Definitely not, according to Andy Updegrove, a Boston lawyer who works with 
| industry standards bodies.  
| 
| [...]
| 
| Whatever the outcome of the vote, that secrecy is one of the things that 
| should change in the way IT standards are developed, Sutor said. 
| 
| "Minutes should be published. This secrecy ... has to end," he said. 
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http://www.linuxworld.com.au/index.php?id=1776565889&rid=-50

Standards Body Weighs Microsoft’s Competing Format For Document Sharing

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| Reactions to the BRM have been mixed. Jonathan Zuck of the Association for 
| Competitive Technology, which counts Microsoft as a member and issued a 
| statement in support of the standard, said that OOXML is just as deserving as 
| ODF of standardisation, as “only OOXML offers full fidelity for storage of 
| existing documents” from prior versions of word-processing software.    
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http://www.ip-watch.org/weblog/index.php?p=938

Paid shill, spinner, scum.

Proprietary past looms over Microsoft OOXML hopes

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| "There's a lot of collaboration going on between the various national bodies 
| attending the meeting at the moment, so we can expect to hear an announcement 
| on the outcome of the meeting from its convener by the weekend," said Sarah 
| Bond, platform strategy manager for Microsoft.   
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http://news.zdnet.co.uk/itmanagement/0,1000000308,39359136,00.htm

Secret meeting, bought by Microsoft. Luckily, the EU will have them punished,
so more trouble lies ahead.

More importantly, as a question to be asked, why was there no public access to
a process involving a decision that affects us all? We should take pride in
the process, should we not?


Recent:

Linux Foundation: Microsoft's OOXML Argument 'Ridiculous'

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| "What I'd love to see is Microsoft adopt the already existing ISO standard," 
| Zemlin says, referring to the OpenDocument Format (ODF) backed by Google and 
| others. "It's akin to Microsoft going to the United States Congress and 
| proposing an alternative bumper heights."   
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http://www.crn.com/software/206900276;jsessionid=CIDB0BZULPGHOQSNDLOSKHSCJUNN2JVN


A renewed wish for open document standards

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| Currently, the technology industry is evaluating a proposed ISO standard for 
| document formats. Given the importance of a workable standard, Microsoft's 
| submission of Office Open XML (OOXML ) as an additional international 
| standard has caught the attention of many. In September 2007, the original 
| request to ISO was defeated. After further technical analysis of the 
| specification along with all the additional data available on OOXML, Google 
| believes OOXML would be an insufficient and unnecessary standard, designed 
| purely around the needs of Microsoft Office.       
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http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/02/renewed-wish-for-open-document.html


Related:

Bam! Comical Creese debunks OpenDocumentFormat Alliance

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| You are free to inspect the irregularities website that documents few cases 
| reported by the online press and blogs. We got much more reports on an 
| informal base per email. The Swedish single employee story is not credible, 
| actually committee stuffing took place in Sweden.   
| 
|     On loopholes, that’s another subjective call, but since Microsoft 
|     competitors managed to establish control over a standards initiative with 
|     potentially dire consequences for one of Microsoft’s most important 
|     business domains, we are not surprised that Microsoft (legitimately, 
|     albeit with what some consider to be poor standards etiquette) exploited 
|     the loopholes. As we noted, we assume ISO will update its procedures to 
|     eliminate the loopholes in the future.      
| 
| What?
| 
|     Microsoft competitors managed to establish control over a standards 
|     initiative… 
| 
| What?
| 
|     Microsoft competitors managed to establish control over a standards 
|     initiative with potentially dire consequences for one of Microsoft’s most 
|     important business domains, we are not surprised that Microsoft …
|     exploited the loopholes.   
| 
| ???
| 
|     but since Microsoft competitors managed to establish control over a 
|     standards initiative with potentially dire consequences for one of 
|     Microsoft’s most important business domains, we are not surprised that 
|     Microsoft (legitimately, albeit with what some consider to be poor 
|     standards etiquette) exploited the loopholes.    
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http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-41447/bam-comical-creese-debunks-opendocumentformat-alliance


Microsoft’s secretive standards orgs in Former Yugoslavia

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| Croatian laws keep its national body’s votes secret, so the only way for the 
| Croatian public to find out how the process went would be if a board member 
| illegally leaked information out of CSI. This is, of course, unlikely to 
| happen. And the Serbian national standardization body is not officially 
| formed, so those two votes were easy for Microsoft, and probably not only 
| ones around the globe.      
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http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2007/092407-ooxml.html?page=1


Microsoft Tech Ed 2007: OpenXML

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| He was asked "Why did Microsoft push OOXML through the "Fast Track" process 
| instead of the standard ISO process? Wouldn't they get less resistance than 
| faced now?"  
| 
| His response was very frank: "Office is a USD$10 billion revenue generator 
| for the company. When ODF was made an ISO standard, Microsoft had to react 
| quickly as certain governments have procurement policies which prefer ISO 
| standards. Ecma and OASIS are 'international standards', but ISO is the 
| international 'Gold Standard'. Microsoft therefore had to rush this standard 
| through. Its a simple matter of commercial interests!"     
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http://www.openmalaysiablog.com/2007/09/microsoft-tech-.html

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