Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
> ____/ Mark Kent on Wednesday 09 January 2008 11:41 : \____
>
>> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
>>> ____/ Robert M. Stockmann on Wednesday 09 January 2008 00:02 : \____
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 10:20:46 -0800, Tim Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Interesting article on that subset of open source advocates that are
>>>>> open source conspiracy theorists:
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://brucebyfield.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/conspiracy-theorists-and-fr
>>>>> ee-software/>
>>>>> <http://tinyurl.com/293qbg>
>>>>>
>>>>> And a response that is also interesting:
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2008-01-04-016-26-OP-CY>
>>>>> <http://tinyurl.com/26xm8t>
>>>>>
>>>>> (BTW, Schestowitz has commented over on Digg that he thinks they are
>>>>> talking about his site).
>>>>
>>>> The Conspiracy is very real
>>>>
>>>> "The problem with conspiracy nuts is that it affects their eyesight."
>>>>
>>>> The problem with conspiracies is that only people affected start to expose
>>>> the conspiracy. I reckon I'm one of the directly affected ones. people not
>>>> directly involved will never see the evidence, hence are not tempted to
>>>> validate the presented evidence.
>>>>
>>>> The conspiracy sometimes does get reported and written down. A good
>>>> example is the following :
>>>>
>>>> Here's a quote from page 159 inside :
>>>>
>>>> "Crossing the Rubicon: The Decline of the American Empire at the End of
>>>> the Age of Oil (Paperback)" by Michael C. Ruppert, Catherine Austin Fitts
>>>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0865715408/103-64 07146-8266248
>>>>
>>>> http://crashrecovery.org/us-army-unix.jpg
>>>>
>>>> "It was also not by coincidence then that, in the same winter of 1994-95,
>>>> McCoy revealed to me that he was using former Green Berets to conduct
>>>> surveillance of the Washington, DC offices of Microsoft in connection
>>>> with the PROMIS case. FTW ("From the Wilderness") has, within the last
>>>> month, received information indicating that piracy of Microsoft products
>>>> at the GE Aerospace Herndon facility were likely tied to larger
>>>> objectives, possibly the total compromise of any Windows-based product.
>>>> It is not by chance that most of the military and all of the intelligence
>>>> agencies in the US now operate on UNIX or Macintosh systems."
>>>>
>>>> Is this for real? I think it is, as things like Linux and Open Source,
>>>> Internet with free access to information are in direct conflict with what
>>>> the establishment is aiming for. The endresult is that blog sites and
>>>> Brian profit's linuxtoday.com are earning a living reporting this, and we
>>>> today have open source webbrowsers like Firefox/Mozilla which directly
>>>> undercut the above quoted. So don't worry. What makes me tired is of
>>>> people who still keep talking, in 2008, that conspiracy nuts do have a
>>>> problem.
>>>>
>>>> If some day a sane US president is _ELECTED_, i propose to award Richard
>>>> Stallman with the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Cause thats what we are
>>>> fighting for here.
>>>>
>>>> Robert
>>>
>>> It turns out that some trolls incited Bruce Byfield against him. One person,
>>> foe example, abused Byfield and signed with my name. Bastards!
>>>
>>> http://boycottnovell.com/2008/01/07/mistake-bruce-byfield/
>>>
>>> If this carries on, I'll just comment in sites where thee is verification of
>>> identity.
>
> s/thee/there/
>
>> Quite possibly it was Timmy
>
> No, that's not his style. Tim pretends to be polite while crouching to take a
> sh*t at your back yard (and later asking for toilet paper and yells for
> attention).
>
>> he seems to know a lot about this. The
>> problem with anonymity is that people like Timmy are always going to
>> abuse it if they can. You said he uses some other nym on Digg, I think?
>
> I linked to 4 separate incidents. I lost count of how many Digg accounts I had
> terminated by telling Digg's management about forging of identity.
>
>> Rather sums up the problem. Dishonest people are what they are -
>> dishonest.
>
> That describes the Microsoft 'fans' in this newsgroup, who subscribe to a Linux
> newsgroup. If they are not paid to do this, it makes no sense whatsoever. As I
> pointed out in the URL above, 4 people (at least) are constantly watching my
> Digg account and modding down all my comments within hours of posuing (that
> would be over 100 times per day, for _SEVERAL MONTHS_). Those 4 people are Tim
> Smith (the nym he uses is harlowmonkeys), Gary Stewart (username flatfish) and
> somebody else from COLA who goes by the name 'kretik' (I'm not sure if it's
> Erik, but he's too rude to be Erik and he's certainly from COLA). I can't
> recall the username of the 4th shill. Digg is well aware of this issue (others
> have complained), but it's caught in a free speech dilemma. Bear in mind that
> Digg is now bragging about its business relationships with Microsoft (yes,
> it's true!).
>
Maybe the time is right to move away from Digg and onto something more
open? Anyone cuddling up to Microsoft is usually out of business within
a couple or just a few years.
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