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Re: Linux, Cambridge, and Singularity

__/ [casioculture@xxxxxxxxx] on Friday 04 November 2005 05:20 \__

> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>> __/ [Thomas Wootten] on Thursday 03 November 2005 23:57 \__
>> > Quote from my supervisor
>> >
>> > "yeah pretty much everyone [uses Linux]. We need to do work"
>> ...Same  with  people  in the maths, computer science  and  maybe  physics
>> (don't  know it well enough) departments here in Manchester. Scanning  for
>> viruses (or the arguable yet fun word 'virii') does not count as work.
>> Linux  still  appeals to the technical community as it  /understands/  its
>> true value. Unfortunately, to very many academics (particularly in the hu-
>> manities), Windows is a combination of Outlook (for interaction), Explorer
>> (for browsing journals) and Word (to write some stuff and publish).
>> Little  do  they realise that, sooner or later, that browser leads to  the
>> 'demise'  of  their data (which of course is /not/ backed up).  That  tool
>> they  use  to write their paper is inferior to LaTeX and it /shows/ --  in
>> print, that is. Lastly, good luck ever migrating your diary and mail data,
>> which is stored in proprietary format.
>> Has  nobody in COLA mentioned Singularity yet? Windows is so flawed, Vista
>> was  re-built from scratch and even Microsoft recognised the need to start
>> from  ground zero. When Apple did this, taking Darwin and discarding OS 9,
>> look what a good product they ended up with
>> http://research.micro$oft.com/os/singularity/
>> (replace $ with 's', they don't need links)
>> Roy
> Hello, it's usually the 'hard' sciences that are into linux, and by
> that I mean those who had a good education in mathematics and
> computing, such as departments of physics, mathematics, engineering,
> and so on. The 'soft' sciences, such as the social sciences, and the
> arts, are still using windows and in general are MSOffice junkies. It's
> sad, but true.

I never denied it (not sure what your "Hello" sounded like) and I fully agree
with you on that.  if you look carefully at the URL above, you will see that
Singularity is aimed at scientist, which are Microsoft's 'soft point'.

Elsewhere in this thread:

__/ [Peter] on Friday 04 November 2005 05:06 \__

> ray wrote:
>> About two or three years ago I recall reading that either Oxford or
>> Cambridge (don't recall which) had outlawed the use of IE and Outlook due
>> to malware infestations.
> Must be Oxford, MS seems to be deeply involved with Cambridge.

Combridge Research Labs are associated with the new project mentioned above.
I can see the Redmond and Cambridge divisions listed therein.

Thomas demonstrates the fact that not everyone in Cambridge has crossed to
the 'dark side'. From what I can gather, Oxford with whom I sometimes
collaborate, are *nix-friendly. Other top institutes like MIT and Stanford
likewise, which keeps the Wintrolls in a state of starvation. Let them /try/
to argue that *nix is associated with falling behind.


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