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Re: still having trouble installing

  • Subject: Re: still having trouble installing
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 11:37:08 +0100
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: schestowitz.com / ISBE, Manchester University / ITS
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__/ [ BearItAll ] on Monday 07 August 2006 11:22 \__

> CoffeehouseSchmuck wrote:
>> i found this in a Linux tuturial but i dont understand it
>> i added my questions in CAPS hoping you guys could answer them
>> thanx in adance
>> Eddie
>> p 1, when installing software, I ALWAYS use the root userid

A terminal windows. Shell/console... something you can 'talk to' rather than
move the mouse cursor over. The command line is your friend. As I said
before, software that is ready is often well-packaged. All you have to do is
drag and drop or double-click an installation file. It seems as though you
are trying to install something that is not properly packaged to make itself
easily available.

>> step 2, download file to some directory. Make a note of which directory
>> you saved it to. (for tarballs, I use "/opt")
>> HOME ?

Yes. I suggest learn the hierarchy of *nix systems. There are some useful
mindmaps that are worth memorising. Remember: Windows is not Linux; and vice
versa this applies too. You need to make a mental transition and it involves
a learning curve. Think of it as though it's a transition from driving a car
to riding a skateboard. You need to practice your muscle memory. It pays off
at the end.

>> step 3, "cd /where/did/you/save/it/to"
>> ???
>> step 4, "ls -al sometarball.tgz" , is it there???
>> ???
>> step5 if not, go back to step 3 and make certain you are in correct
>> directory.
>> step 6 "tar -xvzf sometarball.tgz" (this will extract and list the
>> files for the "tarball").
>> step 7 "cd (the directory automatically created in step 6 when you did
>> the extract, if you do not know for certain, the issue the "ls" command
>> to list the files and sub-directories for the directory you are in).
>> step 8 "./configure" (sometimes, "./Configure" with an upper "C"
>> instead of "lower 'c'". if in doubt, do an "ls" command again to list
>> all files).
>> step 9 enter the command "make" (lots of gcc commands will
>> automatically be run)
>> step 10 enter the command "make install"
>> sorry about the caps..............but you can see my frustration

I suggest you calm down and convince yourself that learning will take time.
If you approach Linux thinking that it's Windows done differently, your
expectancies will have you misled and disappointed.

> When you selected to save the download file it told you where it was going
> to put it. You didn't look or you didn't notice it. Download a dummy one,
> look to see where that is going to be saved then cancel it, you now know
> where the other file is.
> I take it you haven't bothered with any sort of Linux tutorial, because you
> haven't learnt how to open a console. You took on a different OS than you
> are used to, and weren't bothered about leaning how to do anything. This
> isn't an Xbox, or what ever games machine you are used to, where you shove
> in a CD and the game starts, this is an OS, if your too lazy to put in
> basic effort to learn how to use it then no answers here will do you any
> good. That is why such posts get the response 'go back to windows'. I don't
> want you to go back to windows, instead go to a tutorial. There are plenty
> of them out there so just select one that you find easy to follow.

Well said. Very well said.

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