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Re: Opinions on new PDA please

"Roy Schestowitz" <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message 
> __/ [ Martin ] on Sunday 26 February 2006 11:22 \__
>> "Roy Schestowitz" <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:dtrav4$1cn3$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> __/ [ Martin ] on Saturday 25 February 2006 23:00 \__
>>>> "Flunkett Clogwheel" <plunket@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:KC%Lf.35091$Id3.30306@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> "Roy Schestowitz" <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>> news:dtmadi$1msc$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> "Windows on the desktop is on its way out."
>>>>> Dreamer. Linux has failed to make a significant impact on the home
>>>>> market
>>>>> even though it is free. Its just a small cluster of fanatics that like
>>>>> using poor buggy software to avoid paying for an OS.
>>>>> It all comes back to cost of ownership. Whilst linux is more secure, 
>>>>> it
>>>>> is
>>>>> also a nightmare for the average joe to do anything useful with. Get
>>>>> over
>>>>> linux, the quality of the apps will never be as good as those 
>>>>> available
>>>>> on
>>>>> the windows platform, because quality programmers don't work for free.
>>> I strongly disagree with this. Good programmers can earn considerable
>>> amounts
>>> of money in their spare time (e.g. consulting) so that they can pursue
>>> their
>>> passion and attain fame, rather than accrue profits.
>>>>> Beware of anything based upon the 'free' principle - you get what you
>>>>> pay
>>>>> for.
>>>>> I gave up trying to edit audio and video with linux. The apps were 
>>>>> micky
>>>>> mouse and a nightmare to install.
>>> There are distrobutions that are aimed specifically at sound or audio.
>>> Everything is pre-installed and included in the core.
>>>> I have to agree. I had a go at installing Linux on a laptop just to see
>>>> if
>>>> it's any better than last time I tried (about 3 years ago) using
>>>> Mandriva.
>>>> It installed fine, but seemed as bloated as Windows XP, eating up a 
>>>> large
>>>> portion of the hard drive. I'd even say it ran slower than XP on that
>>>> laptop. I quickly became tired trying to get the WiFi to work with it. 
>>>> I
>>>> read plenty from geeks who seemed to be happy to spend a whole day
>>>> getting
>>>> it to work. Well I couldn't. But the REAL NIGHTMARE was the fact that
>>>> Linux
>>>> really fucks up the hard drive. I had a real job getting the full
>>>> capacity
>>>> of the hard drive back as FDISK didn't want to know and I then spent
>>>> hours
>>>> pissing around trying to sort out the hard drive to put XP back on.
>>>> Never again. I'm sure Linux is fine for some people but until the
>>>> manufacturers supply as standard proper drivers of their hardware Linux
>>>> will never get any real traction for home users.
>>> If you have no tolerance for initial setup of hardware,simply  buy a 
>>> Linux
>>> workstation as opposed to attempting a conversion of a "designed for
>>> Windows
>>> XP(R) Pro" unit. Dell, HP (as well as many other smaller vendors) are
>>> selling pre-installed and fully-supported workstations and laptops. 
>>> These
>>> are based on SuSE, Red Hat or Ubuntu rather typically.
> http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/compare.aspx/precn_n?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Roy
>>> --
>>> Roy S. Schestowitz
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>>>  4:20am  up 8 days 16:39,  10 users,  load average: 0.53, 0.80, 0.78
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>> I'm sorry but your statement above is nonsense. What if I decide to buy a
>> new piece of hardware, what are the chances it will work with Linux
>> straightaway? You missed the point. The hardware manufacturers need to
>> provide out of the box drivers for Linux or people won't go near it.
> When you decide to buy a new piece of hardware, opt for one of the many
> vendors that are known to have provided Linux drivers. It is an easy task.
> Trying to get a 5-year-old Winmodem or older equipment off the shelf is
> another matter. When you undertake the task of changing your operating
> system, you must adapt to the change. Mac users buy equipment at the Apple
> Store. They do not whine about lacking Windows-only software either. They
> have their own tools for any given task.
> With kind regards,
> Roy

With all due respect I buy a piece of kit for what it CAN DO, not what OS it 
runs on. I really don't care a toss about Windows, it's just the vehicle 
that runs the software and hardwareI need to use, such as my PDA, digital 
camera, video capture, video editor and so on. The fact is Linux has a very 
restricted number of pieces of hardware that will work straight out the box. 
For you to suggest that I should only buy hardware that would run on Linux 
is crazy.

How popular would a car be if it couldn't use normal petrol form an ordinary 
garage? Would you buy one? A car nerd might but you wouldn't buy one to use 
every day for work.


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