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Re: kernel panic, i panic not

  • Subject: Re: kernel panic, i panic not
  • From: Richard Rasker <spamtrap@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 16:08:26 +0100
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: Linetec
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Op Fri, 06 Jan 2006 14:46:39 +0000, schreef Roy Schestowitz:

> __/ [philo] on Friday 06 January 2006 13:05 \__
>> my main machine uses FC3
>> and it's been running flawlessly ever since it had RH9 on it.
>> recently moved the drive to a newer machine...
>> and it reconfigured itself durning bootup...
>> and within a few seconds all was running fine ...
>> until today as bootup : kernel panic!
>> did i panic ?
>> NO   (well yes, but just for a second)
>> as i saw the exact error message : ide not syncing
>> oh yes...once in a while the removable drive needs to be removed
>> and then *slammed* back in place.
>> reboot, fsck with no problems and the panic is gone
>> it's good when linux tells you the *exact* problem
> You're telling me.... *smile*
> Only 5 minutes ago I helped someone get wireless working under Windows XP.
> It  took  nearly 10 minutes. Why? Because goddamn Windows refuses  to  say
> something  as simple as 'incompatible IP address'. No verbosity is accept-
> able  to Windows. Instead, it will show animated icons which indicate that
> all  is fine and dandy. Try to authenticate? Nothing. After some ping com-
> mands  and  a whole load of tests it became apparent that addressees  were
> hardcoded.  Now,  why can't Windows ever talk? It has got a mouth, has  it
> not?  Trying to defend the users from jargon is no excuse of the automatic
> gear so often fails to function.

That's Windows for ya ... over a year ago, I had a friend of mine
(computer nitwit) set up a dual-boot Mandrake/XP machine under my
supervision, to compare, among other things, ease of installation.
(see http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2004090702426RVMDMS)

There were several things not OK:
- The NIC had OEM settings which prevented it from working properly.
- The on-board sound system was too modern for this XP Home version.
- The USB system was too modern for this XP Home version.

Don't think that XP reported ANY of these serious malfunctions - yet it
had definetely noticed that there were problems (yellow question marks in
the hardware list). 
Instead, we had to dig for hours to find out what the hell was wrong - the
few "diagnostic tools" of XP are absolutely pathetic, and so is the Help
function, and all those stupid wizards which make you jump through the
same hoops over and over again, without any result, and without giving the
user so much as a clue as to what is happening under the hood. (And when
we finally figured out what exactly was wrong with the sound and the USB
system - missing drivers -, we had to dig for well over an hour on the
Internet to get the appropriate drivers.)

So much for user-friendliness ...

Richard Rasker

Linetec Translation and Technology Services


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