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Re: New Live CD with XGL

__/ [ Larry Qualig ] on Thursday 09 March 2006 18:01 \__

> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>> __/ [ Chris Wilkinson ] on Thursday 09 March 2006 10:34 \__
>> > Hi there,
>> >
>> > Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>> >> http://gnomedesktop.org/node/2612
>> >>
>> >> ,----[ Foreword/Snippet ]
>> >> | Today we are happy to release a Kororaa Live CD showcasing Xgl
>> >> | technology. If you would like to find out what it's all about, then
>> >> | download the CD and boot up your pc! The Live CD comes with Xorg 7,
>> >> | Gnome 2.12.2, 3D support and of course Xgl ;)
>> >> `----
>> >>
>> >> I think it is the first free distro to boast XGL support 'out of the
>> >> box'.
>> >
>> > Nice...although currently I'm only getting 800 bytes/sec on the
>> > download from ftp, with the torrent being worse! D'oh! :-(
>> It's also possible to have it installed if you are using Ubuntu Dapper.
>> It's an apt-get belt-and-braces exercise (or Synaptic if you are
>> UI-inclined). Needs slight editing of XOrg files subsequently.
>> I hear it can be quite slow at time, /not/ "as seen in the demo". Wobbling
>> menus in particular can make it impractical for regular use. When enabling
>> fade-in and fade-out transparencies in KDE, I can describe that as
>> uimpractical as well. Look modern though.
> I downloaded the XGL videos from SuSE and this is exactly what I
> thought and posted. Why would people want "wobbling menus" and
> transparent windows? I may try the live-CD to get a first hand glimpse
> but I don't understand the big fuss.
> There is nothing on the videos that looked like it improved usability.
> I suppose it's neat that it can be done and I'm all for a modern
> looking UI with lots of "eye candy" but this certainly isn't it. Why
> would anyone want their menus wobbling and if I'm working in a window
> (say writing email or surfing the web) then why would I want the window
> semi-transparent where the underlying windows interfere with what I'm
> doing?
> For some reason the "big features" of all the XGL stuff seems to be
> transparent windows and wobbling menus.  How and why did this ever
> become the new feature that everyone can't wait to get their hands on?

Enable demoware. Show mates. Disable demoware. Return to work. Been there,
done that. I still use translucency at times. It enables the user to get an
illusion of depth and be able to penetrate underlying layers. Think of
context menus on top of actual text.


It's the remote terminal, not my main machine by the way.

I find shadows to be the most useless, unless they help the user gain insight
into the order of the windows stack, which they rarely do. Assimilation to
reality is not always constructive.


This may or may not remind you of the days 'on campus'...

Best wishes,


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