__/ [ Sinister Midget ] on Thursday 23 March 2006 10:51 \__
> On 2006-03-22, Erik Funkenbusch <erik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> posted
> something concerning:
>> On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 12:53:49 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>| All we hear about Longhorn, though, seems to be about the removal of
>>>| one promised feature after another. I had lunch recently with a former
>>>| Microsoft product manager who was bemoaning the fact that the "three
>>>| pillars of Longhorn," which he said were the basis for its development,
>>>| had all been removed. These were the fancy file structure, the new
>>>| presentation manager, and a communications system?things that were
>>>| going to make the OS a platform for what were described as
>>>| Service-Oriented Applications (SOA).
>> This is wrong. Indigo (Windows Commmunication Framework) and Avalon
>> (Windows Presentation Framework) will still ship with Vista. They just
>> won't be installed by default (they come on the CD along with it).
>> WinFS will come as a service pack 6-12 months later.
As in 2009? For all I know, Microsoft are only buying time. They could wind
up releasing Vista at the end of 2007 (you know, for Christmas, just as
promised). Originally, Longhorn was due to be released in 2003, so 4 years
of delay make 10 months seem like a breeze. How bloody long will they test
it? The alphas of Longhorn have been 'in the wild' for almost a year!
> Is this another one of those situations where "shipping with" means
> comes along months or years later? You know, like HD-DVD and the
> You were adamant at one time that _that_ was going to happen, too.
Nothing is going to happen, Mr. Midget. The ship is sinking. Only
advertisements and FUD can serve as little buckets, which can never prevent
the inevitable. Add-on features that ought to have accompanied thebase, 6
editions, undetermined release date, change of leadership. It looks grim
from all angles, I'm afraid.
Sorry, Mr. Funkenbusch, but you will have to sharpen your GNU/Linux skills
while you are still young and bright. No-one will be interested in .NET and
proprietary servers. Consultants have lost respect for the folks from
I am saying this to you as a friend, not a foe. Like you, I used to be a
Windows guru, but I made the transition early enough, which turned out
marvellously as I continue to reap the benfits.
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