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Re: Microsoft: Schools Fail to Teach Computing

__/ [ Roy Culley ] on Saturday 25 March 2006 17:14 \__

> begin  risky.vbs
> <e03stc$231t$2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>> __/ [ Ian Hilliard ] on Saturday 25 March 2006 16:53 \__
>>> On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 13:32:53 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>> This reminds me of the following essay, which I recommend.
>>>> http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/ThePerilsofJavaSchools.html
>>>> Joel used to manage the Excel team, but he now compiles his software for
>>>> Linux. In the essay, he whines about CS students who never really
>>>> learned *computing* and don't know the very fundamentals.
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>> Roy
>>> Great article. It glances along the edge of one of my pet hates. I call
>>> it the Windows programmer syndrome. It is a generation of programmers,
>>> who don't know how to do the basics. They have to call some special
>>> Windows API to do all the work for them.
>>> A recent example of this is some code to get the file name from the path
>>> name. The programmer created a new class wrapping shlwapi, instead of
>>> realizing that it is a simple string parsing task. With such programmers,
>>> it is no wonder that modern programs are so bloated and buggy.
>>> Ian
>> A lecture which was delivered to us at the LUG last year had quite an
>> 'exhibit'. Apparently, a guy who applied for a job at a consultancy did
>> not know what the command line was, let alone seen one. I believe he had
>> an IT/CS degree. *gasp*
> Almost without exception I have found SW engineers with a CS degree to
> be a waste of time. The best SW engineers seem to be those with an
> engineering / science degree. I did work woth one excellent SW
> engineer who had a music degree. There again, many say SW is more of
> an art than a science. :-)

Ahem. I have a degree in software engineering. However, from Open Source
projects, I have come to know some great programmers with an arts-inclined
background. For a change, they can document the code properly and present it
(verbally, or in writing) very well.

Code is poetry, as WordPress say (Microsoft stole the slogan from WordPress
by the way [1]). I guess that arts students them find it more difficult to
be employed where the prescribed requirement is a loveaffrair with
computers, which is confined to take place in a College/University under
careful supervision with silly mockup 'exercise' and homework. Self taught
rarely counts.

Best wishes,


[1] http://photomatt.net/2005/09/10/poetry-is-microsoft/

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