____/ Peter Köhlmann on Friday 17 August 2007 13:49 : \____
> Linonut wrote:
>
>> After takin' a swig o' grog, Peter Köhlmann belched out this bit o'
>> wisdom:
>>
>>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, to Novell, Linux *is* becoming Windows. It's blending. It's not
>>>> an alternative. .NET, OOXML, Silverlight...
>>>
>>> So if I understand you correctly, providing similar ways to do things
>>> is "not an alternative".
>>> *Not* providing them would be so, then.
>>
>> In my opinion, one is a sucker if one adopts Microsoft technology
>> without the source code and the blessing of Microsoft.
>
> Wrong. That would make the Samba team "suckers", too
That was chicken and egg. It's different. OOXML is stuck in neutral and XAML is
virtually in-existant at this stage.
>> I'd appreciate this technology a bit more if other companies could
>> safely implement them. Companies that don't have a partner relationship
>> with Microsoft.
>
> You don't need to be MS partners to do that. But it equally does not hurt if
> you have a working relationship with them
>
>>> Yes, that makes sense. Lets all bow to GPL3 and make things different.
>>> Especially for new users. *That* will teach them
>>
>> I think you've got a complex about GPLv3.
But we ought to respect his opinion. If everyone agreed on everything, the
world would borefully fall into a state of oblivion. Peter is not a troll and
he is rarely impolite.
> Nope. I deeply dislike it. It is a catastrophic error, to solve problems
> with all the wrong ways.
Mind you, last month it got a huge adoption boost. Developers like what they
see.
>> Maybe you should work for the Samba team for awhile.
>
> Maybe I should not
>
>> Let me rephrase the issue. I would still be somewhat nervous about
>> using Microsoft technology even if they provide the source under a GPLv3
>> license. If they accept that license (or even GLPv2, for that matter),
>> I would put my money on the fact that they found a legal loophole.
>>
>> But maybe I'm too cynical.
>>
>
> Someone who is intent on finding loopholes will do so also with GPL3
Stallman has already spoken about GPLv4. Upgrades are easy. One just has to
update the software.
> Maybe people should stop forcing their views on the world (after the
> pattern: "You will accept this freedom we are forcing on you, no matter
> what") and start to think about real world implications. I have the
> distinct feeling that MS is laughing internally about that stupid GPL3.
Au contraire. It weeps about it (yes, an exaggeration). If it was a Free
software killer, they wouldn't lobby against it like Mussolini on the balcony
with all its shills (ISC, CompTIA, ACT, etc).
> It
> will be *the* dividing force in the development of linux, and it will do
> nothing but harm
...Novell's vision of a proprietary Linux.
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