____/ Peter Köhlmann on Friday 17 August 2007 07:44 : \____
> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>
>> ____/ Peter Köhlmann on Thursday 16 August 2007 16:10 : \____
>>
>>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>
>>>> ____/ chrisv on Thursday 16 August 2007 13:46 : \____
>>>>
>>>>> Kier wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 08:27:51 +0100, BearItAll wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is also the point that MS still has the majority of desktops,
>>>>>>> Linux has no choice but to work with MS at some levels. If you want
>>>>>>> to make a difference in this world you have to be inside the tent
>>>>>>> pissing out, not outside the tent pissing in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Exactly. Novell and others don't have the luxury of shunning MS if they
>>>>>>want to get on in the world.
>>>>>
>>>>> But you don't have to join (legally) with them to work (be compatible)
>>>>> with them.
>>>>>
>>>>> In other words, there's a happy medium between kicking them in the
>>>>> nuts and giving them a big sloppy kiss.
>>>>
>>>> Kier, Rob,
>>>>
>>>> I know you might not care for my suggestion, but if you have time to
>>>> spare, navigate through the Web site (many cross references therein) and
>>>> find out what the white-collar press is trying to hide. They want people
>>>> to believe what they they wrongly perceive as good for the
>>>> economy/advertisers.
>>>>
>>>> SUSE is getting worse.
>>>
>>> Not that I've noticed
>>
>> You separated the sentence, so it is seen out of context. It gets worse
>> from a legal point of view.
>>
>>>> It become .NET-dependent and the changes are pushed
>> ^s
>>
>>>> upsread. Microsoft is playing Novell like a marionette, just as it toys
>>>> with Xen and Scalix at the moment. It tries to use companies to destroy
>>>> others. It uses proxies to escape antitrust jeopardy and scrutiny.
>>>>
>>>> It's sad, but it's all true.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Actually, it is bullshit
>>
>> Be specific. Which of the claims is "bullshit"?
>
> "It become .NET-dependent and the changes are pushed..." is bollocks, for
> example
Okay, so here's an actual debate and I beg to differ. Novell has said that it
has big plans for .NET (Mono) and a lot of GNOME is now using Mono packages
and apparently depends on them. [H]omer did some tests to confirm this. It
even affects Fedora and Red Hat promised that it would not use Mono.
> "Microsoft is playing Novell like a marionette" is a very "artistic"
> interpretation of what is going on
True, but watch what they did with OOXML. The written deal mandates it.
>> By coincidence, I posted
>> this < http://boycottnovell.com/2007/08/16/knowledge-about-novell/ >
>
> So you think that something like "boycottnovell.com" is unbiased, the pure,
> unadultered truth?
> It is pure, unadultered zealotry in my eyes.
Because of the domain name? It was no my choice. Look beyond the name.
>> just
>> a couple of hours ago and I now realise that it also covers your
>> unspecific claim that this is "bullshit". Tell me /where/ the arguments
>> are wrong.
>>
>
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