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[News] [Rival] Another Microsoft/Novell Insider Stunt

  • Subject: [News] [Rival] Another Microsoft/Novell Insider Stunt
  • From: Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:20:50 +0000
  • Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
  • Organization: Netscape / schestowitz.com
  • User-agent: KNode/0.10.4
All sides of the debate?

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| How many sides are there in the OOXML debate? What if all sides are Microsoft 
| and Microsoft business partners? 
| [...]
| Dough Mahugh (Microsoft) :
|     Next week's XML 2007 conference in Boston features speakers from all 
|     sides of the document format debate, including a document interop session 
|     with Miguel de Icaza (Novell) and Vijay Rajagopalan (Microsoft) that I 
|     expect will offer a lively discussion around Open XML, ODF, and XML-based 
|     interoperability in general.    


Microsoft uses de Icaza to get it's way. Even RMS has become aware of the

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| - -------- Original Message --------
| Subject: GNOME dependent on Mono
| Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:03:38 -0500
| From: Richard Stallman <rms@xxxxxxx>
| Reply-To: rms@xxxxxxx
| To: foundation-list@xxxxxxxxx
| I read http://boycottnovell.com/2007/11/05/gnome-mono-yelp/ with
| great concern.
| Since I am not an expert, I cannot tell on my own if that description
| of the situation is accurate.  If part of it is not accurate, I hope
| someone will explain.  However, if it is accurate, GNOME has a serious
| problem.
| I have always supported the development of free platforms for C#, just
| as I've supported the development of free platforms for any language
| that users use.  I also wouldn't argue that people should not use C#
| with a free platform for secondary applications.
| However, making GNOME depend on Mono is running a grave risk, and a
| grave mistake.  If the article accurately describes the situation, I
| think we need to launch a high-priority project to reimplement Yelp in
| some other language.
| The use of code from Firefox in a way that might cause trademark
| problems is also a serious issue.  The solution might not be difficult
| - -- it may be enough to remove the trademark in the sources used by
| GNOME wherever that is necessary -- but the solution does need to be
| carried out.
| The nontechnical impact of these issues vastly exceeds the technical
| impact, so considering them only in technical terms is fundamentally
| misguided.  In this sort of decision, the Foundation should intervene
| and decide based on the nontechnical issues at stake.  If those who
| work for Novell tell us not to worry, we should not listen to them.

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