____/ The Ghost In The Machine on Friday 14 March 2008 14:11 : \____
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Roy Schestowitz
> <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote
> on Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:35:59 +0000
> <1428728.nhgesU99vl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>> ____/ Mark Kent on Friday 14 March 2008 09:24 : \____
>>
>>> Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
>>>> ____/ The Ghost In The Machine on Thursday 13 March 2008 23:15 : \____
>>>>
>>>>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, 7
>>>>> <website_has_email@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote
>>>>> on Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:47:39 GMT
>>>>> <faiCj.23100$XI.2421@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>>>>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Open Networks, Open Platforms Seen As Mobile Industry's Future
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>>>>>> | Google's Android operating system and VoIP applications like Skype
>>>>>>> | will be major contributors, a panel of communications experts
>>>>>>> | predicts.
>>>>>>> `----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=206903247&subSection=News
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why do they rant its Linux when the apps are not native Linux
>>>>>> applications?
>>>>>
>>>>> ??
>>>>>
>>>>> I see no rant here at all, except a plea for continued Net
>>>>> neutrality (briefly put, the Net should not discriminate
>>>>> against the competition when it comes to routing packets,
>>>>> data, or both).
>>>>>
>>>>> It turns out the MPAA has a slightly different opinion...
>>>>>
>>>>> ($100/month?? And I thought cable was bad...)
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The future of mobile is going to happen ONLY with
>>>>>> Linux and Linux based telephony applications with standard
>>>>>> PC developer systems like gcc, gtk / kde.
>>>>>
>>>>> Debatable, though no other freeware OS is really ready to
>>>>> step into the breach at this point.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The longer they resist the more time and money they loose.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We'll see. Certainly the Orange Phone isn't exactly
>>>>> getting a lot of buzz anymore. ;-) But Symbian still holds
>>>>> a goodly fraction of the market, last I looked, although
>>>>> Google's Android looks poised to make a run for it.
>>>>
>>>> Did you see what happened to Nokia after this week's disappointing outlook
>>>> from TI? Either way, the worry is that Nokia is a little too close to
>>>> Microsoft. Microsoft DRM, anti-Ogg, Silverfish, pro-software patents, etc.
>>>> This kind of ruins the upsides like Maemo and Qt.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Nokia are playing both sides, it would seem. They have considerable
>>> investment in Symbian, of course. I wonder if Symbian might be
>>> open-sourced? That could be very interesting...
>>
>> There was tons of talks about this last year, not just speculation. It was
>> about just portions of the system though. Let me dig some of the many refs
>> from that time (a year ago between 11/06-03/07).
>>
>> ___
>>
>> Symbian Woos Open Source Developers with Posix
>>
>> ,----[ Quote ]
>> | Symbian Ltd will today announce the availability of libraries to
>> | support the Posix APIs, with a view to attracting developers of
>> | open source apps to port to its smart phone OS.
>> `----
>>
>>
http://www.cbronline.com/article_news.asp?guid=2E30A0C6-6999-4254-BC9B-8283793D0F4C
>> http://tinyurl.com/y2saya
>>
>> UIQ: to open or to open source?
>>
>> ,----[ Quote ]
>> | A move to open source by UIQ would also put Nokia under pressure
>> | to re-evaluate S60 software licence structures and fees. It
>> | would additionally provide the Symbian ecosystem with a rival
>> | to emerging open source, Linux-based handset platforms, which
>> | looks set to become increasingly potent forces over the
>> | next few years.
>> `----
>>
>> http://www.ovum.com/news/euronews.asp?id=5437
>>
>> Sony Ericsson offers UIQ shares, analyst suggests to open source instead
>>
>> ,----[ Quote ]
>> | After all, by not open sourcing a tiny bit of code nor even basing
>> | it's strategy on third party applications, we all know what Apple
>> | is going to achieve with the iPhone and succesive iPhone nano's,
>> | micro's, etc.
>> `----
>>
>>
http://www.clubsonyericsson.com/en/03/03/2007/sony-ericsson-offers-uiq-shares-analyst-suggests-to-open-source-instead/
>> http://tinyurl.com/2jfyw3
>>
>
> I for one would hope Symbian goes open-source and that
> its relevant drivers be incorporated into Linux somehow.
> It does seem to have a lot of IP relating to phones.
>
> Admittedly I don't know how hard it would be to port Symbian
> apps to Linux (given those drivers).
Some time ago, Nokia made it easier to port Linux apps (Maemo included, IIRC)
to S60. I can't recall if they provided some SDK for this, but hopefully they
can provide a 'translation' tool that works the other way around. Palm's new
OS will run both Linux apps and legacy PalmOS apps, which even Nokia's Maemo
can now run. There are about 30,000 PalmOS appplications.
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