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Re: problem using palm with xp pro

  • Subject: Re: problem using palm with xp pro
  • From: "Harold Fuchs" <me@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 17:29:19 -0000
  • Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops.pilot
  • References: <Ayt8f.22289$6e1.11836@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com> <dk05sg$2od6$3@godfrey.mcc.ac.uk> <gqhbf.9874$Hj2.9826@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <dkn5ji$90d$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk> <dkn823$2es6$1@godfrey.mcc.ac.uk>
  • Reply-to: "Harold Fuchs" <me@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Xref: news.mcc.ac.uk comp.sys.palmtops.pilot:307027
"Roy Schestowitz" <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message 
> __/ [Harold Fuchs] on Monday 07 November 2005 09:09 \__
>>> "Roy Schestowitz" <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:dk05sg$2od6$3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> __/ [Tom] on Friday 28 October 2005 18:51 \__
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I just got a Z22.  I am having problem installing the software to XP
>>>>> Pro.
>>>>> I need to ask my admin to login and have him install the software for
>>>>> me.
>>>>> The problem is when I login, the palm desktop or the hotsync will not
>>>>> work
>>>>> at all.
>>>>> Any solution?
>>>> None other than waiting for the administrator to install all necessary
>>>> software. Windows XP does not support Palm devices at its core (from 
>>>> what
>>>> I
>>>> have recently heard neither will Vista). You must have the add-ons, 
>>>> e.g.
>>>> HotSync Manager, Palm Desktop and so forth.
>>>> It appears much easier with Linux where Palm support is built-in (most
>>>> modern
>>>> distributions), so it's a plug-and-play situation.
>>>> Hope it helps,
>>>> Roy
>> "E2User" <null@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:gqhbf.9874$Hj2.9826@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> If you're the only user of the PC, you can probably ask your sysadmin to
>>> add you as an admininstrator of that PC.
> Either that, or the system administrator will have to install the 
> software. I
> suspect that Palm Desktop and HotSync Manager need to be installed in the
> typical way which includes Registry entries. This means that you can't 
> just
> run the binaries (e.g. palm.exe).
>> I *think* that what you need to do is as follows:
>> 1. Log in as Administrator
>> 2. Add you to the Administrator group
>> 3. Log in as you
>> 4. Install the software
>> 5. Log in as Administrator
>> 6. Remove you from the Administrator group
>> 7. Restart the computer
>> Windows's security model is completely broken. Page one of any security
>> manual says you shouldn't use any computer as the sysadmin if that 
>> computer
>> is connected to a network (because that gives any malware admin rights).
>> Anyone trying to use XP as a non-admin is facing an uphill struggle as 
>> more
>> and more software fails, in more or less serious ways, in this 
>> environment.
> I second that, but it doesn't solve the OP's problem. I suppose sudo would
> have been far more trivial and quick.
> Hope it helps,
> Roy
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In fact Windows XP allows a "run as" mode where you can run a program as the 
administrator if you know the administrator's password.

Unfortunately, in the case of the Palm Desktop installer (and much else 
besides), this does *not* help because it puts the relevant registry entries 
in the wrong place - under the Administrator account whereas the OP needs 
them under his account. The 7-step method I detailed seems to work.

Harold Fuchs
Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana. 

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