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Re: SuSE and Mandriva (Was: Adsense Gadget)

Roy Schestowitz wrote:

> __/ [Blinky the Shark] on Sunday 08 January 2006 08:05 \__
>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>> __/ [Blinky the Shark] on Saturday 07 January 2006 19:08 \__
>>>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>>> PS - Blinky, I see that you settled on "Mandriva 2006.0 Linux; kernel
>>>>> 2.6.12". Glad you got it working eventually.
>>>> Thanks.  I'm also running SuSE 10.0, but Mandriva is here, on my
>>>> primary box.
>>> What do you think of SuSE? That Linux distro 'quiz'[1] recommended that
>>> I use Mandriva when I took the test a couple of days ago.
>> I don't have a huge impression, yet.  The install required less user
>> input; but that's because there was no chance to customize it.
> True. You can always go back to YaST and install whatever you fancy. By
> default, plenty of the basic 'stuff' gets installed. SuSE is trying not to
> confuse the amateur user and be the least verbose. it's a positive thing.
> Ubuntu is even worse/better (i.e. quiet, depends on one's preferences).
I don't see it as positive when Mandrake's approach is to offer a list

[ ] graphics workstation
[ ] network workstation
[ ] office workstation

...and let you check what you want to do.  How can "what do you want to
do?" boggle a newb?  Sure, he can also choose to instead pick all the
packages he wants installed from The Big List of what's included with the
distribution media.  But he doesn't have to; he can just check off areas
from the list I just incompletely approximated and let Mandrake install
what he'll probably need.

>> Other than
>> that, I've been getting used to files being in different places and
>> stuff like that, and learning my way around the YaST equivalent of
>> Mandriva's Mandrake Control Center, both of which are kind of like
>> Win's Control Panel.
> True, but there is also the issue of adaptation and orientation. The
> menus are logically build, somewhat hierarchically. That kind of
> computer 'taxonomy' is rather innate, so it is not a matter of emulating
> or imitating Control Panel by any means. In fact, Windows probably
> copied these from the Mac. Most of the look-and-feel is argued to be so.
> Locations of files are canonical. A quick Web search could immediately

And, as I said, different by distribution, in some cases.

> provide the 'bridge' and knowing the variants of common paths is a
> valued skill (see more below).
I didn't say I was afraid of SuSE.  I just mentioned some of my first
impressions.  And I didn't say any of them were deal breakers.  :)
>> And loading software, of course.  I have mail and news clients set up
>> and running -- that was just fiddly work, as they're the same ones I
>> use here in Mandrake.  All that said, it looks fine and the only reason
>> I favor Mandrake is because I've been using it for a few years and I'd
>> never seen SuSE until last week or so.  Had it been the other way
>> around, I'd be more comfortable with SuSE.  I've also been playing with
>> a live CD of Knoppix, and a couple days ago I got a copy of Kubuntu
>> (live/install, take your pick), which I'd ordered along with the new
>> Open Office 2.0.0.
> Knowing many distribution is a useful exercise. It does not take more
> than a few days to get a 'taste' of each. As you are dealing with
> various KDE-based distributions, the difference is probably minor for
> most things.
Isn't SuSE (which offers both KDE and Gnome) more Gnomey thatn KDEish?
>> As for your test results, Mandriva is considered about the most
>> Linux-newbie friendly (it had that distinction as Mandrake, before the
>> merver with Connectiva last year).  And that's why *I* started with it,
>> when I moved.  I kept Windows for about a year, in a dual-boot
>> situation next to Mandrake: both OS's on the same HDD and at boot the
>> the option of loading either one.  And since Linux understands MS file
>> systems (not that MS lets Windows understand Linux <g>), I could bring
>> data from Win over to Linux while in Linux, which was good for the
>> conversion stage moving to Linux.
>>> [1] http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/
>> The test results for me: Mandriva, SuSE and Open SuSe, in that order.
>> :)
> If you ever wish to move files from Linux to Windows, you can do that
> rather easily. I was in that very same situation a year ago, before all
> computers and partitions turned Linux (ReiserFS).

I've been moving them back and forth since 200...er...2002, I think.
> http://p-nand-q.com/download/rfstool.html
> http://yareg.akucom.de/index.html#DOWNLOAD (.NET GUI to the above)
> These can make your life a lot easier if you cannot afford to strip
> Windows off one partition, but still wish to use its available disk
> space.
I'll check those out when I have more time than I do tonight -- thanks.

Blinky                 Reg Linux User 297263
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