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Re: Fatal Alert Loop on Palm Vx!

  • Subject: Re: Fatal Alert Loop on Palm Vx!
  • From: "Penster" <xxx@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 21:07:55 GMT
  • Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops.pilot
  • Organization: NTL
  • References: <w%dbg.620$Qg.295@tornado.southeast.rr.com> <e4kc57$je3$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <Aajbg.6853$JW5.3059@southeast.rr.com> <e4kk73$k4c$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <2093305.jdodrEjIQf@schestowitz.com>
  • Xref: news.mcc.ac.uk comp.sys.palmtops.pilot:311822
Probably a good place to start is by only loading the basic Palm databases. 
You can do this by emptying your backup file, hard resetting the palm then 
If your username is Joe Bloggs, you copy the contents of C:\Program 
Files\Palm\BloggsJ\Backup to a safe place then delete the contents of that 
file. That removes all 3rd party applications and databases. Hard reset your 
Vx and hotsync. You should then have only the basic PIM databases. You can 
then start to reload the 3rd party apps & databases by copying files from 
your saved backup file into your new backup file. You can then spot which 
apps are giving problems.
If, when you do this, the basis Palm PIMs are crashing your Vx, (I am 
guessing), you will probably need to use the File>Export command in your 
palm desktop app to export the databases, wipe all your Palm data then 
import the data back in. I think this is because in OS5, the basic PIM apps 
have been altered eg. Datebook has become Calendar, ToDo has become Tasks 
Hope this makes sense.
PS It is a very good idea to make a copy of C:\Program Files\Palm\BloggsJ to 
a safe place before you start. That way, if you mess up, you can start 

"Roy Schestowitz" <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message 
> __/ [ Paul Nevai ] on Friday 19 May 2006 15:20 \__
>> NBK <no@xxxxxxxx> aszonygya:
>> :Paul Nevai wrote:
>> :> NBK <no@xxxxxxxx> aszonygya:
>> :> :Hi
>> :> :
>> :> :*Windows XP SP2
>> :> :*Palm Desktop 4.1.4
>> :> :*Palm Vx
>> :> :*
>> :> :
>> :> :My Palm Tungsten E died, so i decided to use my old trusty Palm Vx.
>> :> :When i try to load [hotsync] my info on to the Vx, I get the 
>> following
>> :> :error message:
>> :> :
>> :> :Fatal Alert
>> :> :SystemMgr.c, Line:154,Unimplemented
> I have come across it before, in one context or another in the newsgroups. 
> As
> suggested already, search on the Web and try searching UseNet as well. Use
> the error as your search phrase.
>> :> :The error message prompts me to reset constantly.
>> :> :
>> :> :I have tried to a hard reset and a soft reset to no avail. I have no
>> :> :idea of what to do next.
>> :>
>> :> Do you get this immediately after the hard reset [which is probably
>> :> impossible], or after the 1st HotSync [which means that you put an OS5
>> :> thingie back to your Vx]?
>> :>
>> :> /PaulN
>> :
>> :Hi PaulN,
>> :
>> :When i do a 'hard' reset wiping the Palm Vx out and restoring it factory
>> :default, everything is fine.  The error message appears during a hotsync
>> :of old data.
>> So get rid of the OS 5 specific stuff on your DeskTop comnputer [move 
>> them
>> to a safe place] before your first HotSync. This is easy if you are an
>> expert
>> but otherwise it might be quite complicated.  My advice would be to do 
>> some
>> learning via the web, Google each application/hack you have, and talk to
>> the developers. Good luck, PaulN
> One thing worth trying is exporting the data from the Palm Desktop where 
> O/S
> 5 was used and then import it into an older version before 
> synchronisation.
> See what happens...
> Hope it helps,
> Roy
> PS - I have not seen you around the newsgroups for ages, Paul. Good to see
> you around nonetheless.

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